Listened to this episode yesterday and then my husband and I spent entirely too much time watching SO many Timbaland videos on youtube last night. Once you start - you realize just how many acts were touched by him - Justin's entire solo career, Nelly Furtado's complete remake from I'm like a Bird, Black-eyed Peas, etc etc. (also! he was in his late 20s, early 30s in these years - I had no idea he was that young) As someone who indeed did go to the club in that era of 2005-2014ish - I wonder if some of the GenZ nostalgia is watching this world were people PACKED into a space without concern for catching some disease and just dancing the night away as something that has indeed been lost. It'd be fascinating if this is just the start of some sort of nightclub renaissance. The music videos for these songs all depict the club scene.
Ok I live in New York City and I have been hearing Sade everywhere: coffee shops, bars, tv, a remix of “Kiss of Life” at a Nonalcoholic Spirits vendor show last Friday?? (Please, we need to talk about the NA spirit trend next) I’m pretty sure it was this: https://open.spotify.com/track/4sBlpcFuP1ijPGWUHl9u3X?si=52hKVbKYSfuTgPqw9U4M9A
As you mention, it all makes weirdly perfect sense to me as a teen who loooooved the 60s, especially the music, in the 2000s. Like, the 1960s were a *famously* tumultuous time in history--I often think how dire it must have felt living through the successive assassinations of MLK and RFK in the same year--and yet! I'm also sure the ways that we feel 2000s fashion was ugly was the way people thought late 60s fashion was too gaudy.
I was in middle/high school in the early 2000s and I remember my mom always being shocked and appalled at things from the 70s coming back in style, from when she was in high school. At the time I was like "who cares???" but now... I get it.
Yes! And the way that the "Penny Lane coat" is back in style now as a retro 2000s piece, which was originally a retro 70s piece in the early 2000s is so meta!
I was so excited to 1) hear Nate Sloan on the pod because I thoroughly enjoy "Switched on Pop," and 2) learn that there are others out there who appreciate Rob Harvilla's "60 Songs That Explain the 90's" as much as I do!
The most thought provoking bit of discussion for me was the part about how they (Gen Z) are reaching for what serves as "nostalgia music" for them, but we (elder millennial here) can only associate it with losing your high heels on a drunken night out. It seemed so obvious as AHP/Nate were explaining it, but I hadn't even considered that - like, I was born in 1983, and music from the late 80's and early 90's (until I started getting into pop music on my own in middle school) just reminds me of my childhood, OF COURSE 2000s music fills that same niche for someone else! Duh.
Great episode. I love Rob Harvilla’s 60 Songs podcast. I also enjoy The Spectrum on Sirius to find new music. They put enough old stuff in there to feel comforting, and then hit you with The Red Clay Strays or Bakar. So my early 2000s question is this: Can you do a deep dive on why Justin Timberlake was the one boy band member to became Super Bowl halftime show worthy famous and JC Chasez, Jordan Knight, and Joey McIntyre did not? They all had good solo albums, they can sing and dance, and they’re very handsome and charming. JC, in particular, had a very cool album in 2004 that I thought was superior to Justified. Are the Neptunes and Timbaland the reason behind Justin Timberlake’s stardom? I know Justin’s relationship with Britney helped. As a Gen-Xer who watched all this go down as a young 30-something I never really quite understood Justin’s crazy appeal (and I was Team Britney from Day One).
Obadiah Parker (Mat Weddle) was one of my closest friends when his cover went viral and it was just so bizarre and wonderful to watch. Even now every time I hear it I love it all over again
OH MY GOD. Yes. I was working in a coffee shop last week and whichever barista was DJing was oscillating exclusively between Usher and Bruno Mars (who admittedly is more 2010s, but it felt like a time machine). They were going through it.
My boyfriend and I ate dinner at a Vietnamese place in our neighborhood last weekend, and they were definitely playing a "Mariah Carey radio" playlist -- which was more 90s than 2000s stuff, but we did hear "We Belong Together" and "Shake It Off," both of which still slap.
I haven't listened yet, but I would also like to point out the reappearance of 2000s acts--Timbaland, Nelly Furtado, and Justin Timberlake released "Keep Going Up" in September. I was oblivious to the idea that there might be demand for their (old) music and just wondered if they had run out of money.
I recently made a nostalgia playlist -- well, two.
The first playlist was from the early early 90s. I got a radio for my 5th birthday and I spent winters at my grandparents in upstate NY, so lots of snow and thus lots of Pop Up Video. That meant a lot of early 90s rock and pop: Madonna, Green Day, Stone Temple Pilots, Collective Soul, Sponge, Sheryl Crow, Cranberries, Ace of Base, Sarah McLaughlin... I have vague memories of ads for the Lilith Fair.
The second is from the early 2000s when I was I junior high and high school. The FIRST song I always think of is “All the Small Things” by Blink-182. It was the era of Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater and I listened to a lot of punk pop and, regrettably, ska. I regret to inform you that I still kind of like Less Than Jake.
I swung mid-high school to Tool, A Perfect Circle, etc. I used Napster until it shut down and then, at about this time, its proxies showed up and I could try music my online friends mentioned but that very never on the radio.
Parental influences are funny. My dad likes Cosby, Stills and Nash. My mom liked ABBA and Neil Diamond. I didn’t appreciate any of these until I was older and over whatever image I felt the music I listened to said about me. I used to take some of my dad’s 80s hair rock and play it on his (at the time) new, fancy CD player. I jumped on the couch playing air guitar and blew out the speakers. It was like, a month old stereo.
Oh. And I bought the Jimmy Eat World CD “Bleed American” in July 2001 and then bought its renamed, self-titled CD post-9/11 -- still one of the best complete CDs out there, in my opinion, second maybe only to BNL’s “Stunt”.
Bleed American is still so, so so good. And it's one of those albums that has a time-warp quality to me. It evokes such a specific, vivid period of my teens that anytime I hear one of the songs (especially an album track that wasn't a single, like Hear You Me or Authority Song) it takes me RIGHT. BACK.
Listened to this episode yesterday and then my husband and I spent entirely too much time watching SO many Timbaland videos on youtube last night. Once you start - you realize just how many acts were touched by him - Justin's entire solo career, Nelly Furtado's complete remake from I'm like a Bird, Black-eyed Peas, etc etc. (also! he was in his late 20s, early 30s in these years - I had no idea he was that young) As someone who indeed did go to the club in that era of 2005-2014ish - I wonder if some of the GenZ nostalgia is watching this world were people PACKED into a space without concern for catching some disease and just dancing the night away as something that has indeed been lost. It'd be fascinating if this is just the start of some sort of nightclub renaissance. The music videos for these songs all depict the club scene.
Love this take!
I just saw an ad with Stereolab “Lo Boob Oscillator” and am wondering if we’re in for a redux of the High Fidelity soundtrack?
lol WHATEVER BRADLEY COOPER'S DEAL IS - waiting with bated breath
My house is filled with Gorillaz and The Prodigy's Firestarter... due to my kids.
Ok I live in New York City and I have been hearing Sade everywhere: coffee shops, bars, tv, a remix of “Kiss of Life” at a Nonalcoholic Spirits vendor show last Friday?? (Please, we need to talk about the NA spirit trend next) I’m pretty sure it was this: https://open.spotify.com/track/4sBlpcFuP1ijPGWUHl9u3X?si=52hKVbKYSfuTgPqw9U4M9A
As you mention, it all makes weirdly perfect sense to me as a teen who loooooved the 60s, especially the music, in the 2000s. Like, the 1960s were a *famously* tumultuous time in history--I often think how dire it must have felt living through the successive assassinations of MLK and RFK in the same year--and yet! I'm also sure the ways that we feel 2000s fashion was ugly was the way people thought late 60s fashion was too gaudy.
I was in middle/high school in the early 2000s and I remember my mom always being shocked and appalled at things from the 70s coming back in style, from when she was in high school. At the time I was like "who cares???" but now... I get it.
Yes! And the way that the "Penny Lane coat" is back in style now as a retro 2000s piece, which was originally a retro 70s piece in the early 2000s is so meta!
If recycling pop culture brings back this kind of peak 90s Lilith Fair content, I’m here for it: https://youtu.be/dFid15XOwPo?si=aSfilLVW2GWM3mJi
I was so excited to 1) hear Nate Sloan on the pod because I thoroughly enjoy "Switched on Pop," and 2) learn that there are others out there who appreciate Rob Harvilla's "60 Songs That Explain the 90's" as much as I do!
The most thought provoking bit of discussion for me was the part about how they (Gen Z) are reaching for what serves as "nostalgia music" for them, but we (elder millennial here) can only associate it with losing your high heels on a drunken night out. It seemed so obvious as AHP/Nate were explaining it, but I hadn't even considered that - like, I was born in 1983, and music from the late 80's and early 90's (until I started getting into pop music on my own in middle school) just reminds me of my childhood, OF COURSE 2000s music fills that same niche for someone else! Duh.
Great episode! and please record my vote for “Melody gets a mic on every ep” pls we need her out of the chat and in our ears! 💕💕💕
I so appreciate your confidence in me but I like being behind the scenes!
MORE MELODY MORE MELODY
Great episode. I love Rob Harvilla’s 60 Songs podcast. I also enjoy The Spectrum on Sirius to find new music. They put enough old stuff in there to feel comforting, and then hit you with The Red Clay Strays or Bakar. So my early 2000s question is this: Can you do a deep dive on why Justin Timberlake was the one boy band member to became Super Bowl halftime show worthy famous and JC Chasez, Jordan Knight, and Joey McIntyre did not? They all had good solo albums, they can sing and dance, and they’re very handsome and charming. JC, in particular, had a very cool album in 2004 that I thought was superior to Justified. Are the Neptunes and Timbaland the reason behind Justin Timberlake’s stardom? I know Justin’s relationship with Britney helped. As a Gen-Xer who watched all this go down as a young 30-something I never really quite understood Justin’s crazy appeal (and I was Team Britney from Day One).
Obadiah Parker (Mat Weddle) was one of my closest friends when his cover went viral and it was just so bizarre and wonderful to watch. Even now every time I hear it I love it all over again
I loved this episode! The topic, the guest, the discussion, the advice! Totally perfect.
OH MY GOD. Yes. I was working in a coffee shop last week and whichever barista was DJing was oscillating exclusively between Usher and Bruno Mars (who admittedly is more 2010s, but it felt like a time machine). They were going through it.
My boyfriend and I ate dinner at a Vietnamese place in our neighborhood last weekend, and they were definitely playing a "Mariah Carey radio" playlist -- which was more 90s than 2000s stuff, but we did hear "We Belong Together" and "Shake It Off," both of which still slap.
I haven't listened yet, but I would also like to point out the reappearance of 2000s acts--Timbaland, Nelly Furtado, and Justin Timberlake released "Keep Going Up" in September. I was oblivious to the idea that there might be demand for their (old) music and just wondered if they had run out of money.
I recently made a nostalgia playlist -- well, two.
The first playlist was from the early early 90s. I got a radio for my 5th birthday and I spent winters at my grandparents in upstate NY, so lots of snow and thus lots of Pop Up Video. That meant a lot of early 90s rock and pop: Madonna, Green Day, Stone Temple Pilots, Collective Soul, Sponge, Sheryl Crow, Cranberries, Ace of Base, Sarah McLaughlin... I have vague memories of ads for the Lilith Fair.
The second is from the early 2000s when I was I junior high and high school. The FIRST song I always think of is “All the Small Things” by Blink-182. It was the era of Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater and I listened to a lot of punk pop and, regrettably, ska. I regret to inform you that I still kind of like Less Than Jake.
I swung mid-high school to Tool, A Perfect Circle, etc. I used Napster until it shut down and then, at about this time, its proxies showed up and I could try music my online friends mentioned but that very never on the radio.
Parental influences are funny. My dad likes Cosby, Stills and Nash. My mom liked ABBA and Neil Diamond. I didn’t appreciate any of these until I was older and over whatever image I felt the music I listened to said about me. I used to take some of my dad’s 80s hair rock and play it on his (at the time) new, fancy CD player. I jumped on the couch playing air guitar and blew out the speakers. It was like, a month old stereo.
Oh. And I bought the Jimmy Eat World CD “Bleed American” in July 2001 and then bought its renamed, self-titled CD post-9/11 -- still one of the best complete CDs out there, in my opinion, second maybe only to BNL’s “Stunt”.
Totally agree that Jimmy Eat World holds up!!!
Bleed American is still so, so so good. And it's one of those albums that has a time-warp quality to me. It evokes such a specific, vivid period of my teens that anytime I hear one of the songs (especially an album track that wasn't a single, like Hear You Me or Authority Song) it takes me RIGHT. BACK.
There is *not* a spotify playlist for this episode? Or am I missing it?